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Posted 20 November 2011 - 04:27 PM

H,i does anyone how waxoyl kills rust, i know that if the metal is gone to far you cut it out and replace it,so does it mean just surface rust when the metal goes a orange colour?

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    Posted 20 November 2011 - 04:31 PM

    waxoil doesnt kill rust. waxoil is a protective coating, which is used to prevent panels from rusting in the future. Providing a layer of protecting between the metal and the rain/grit etc.

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      Posted 20 November 2011 - 04:34 PM

      Correct!

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        Posted 20 November 2011 - 04:42 PM

        It also prevents water, salt & moisture in the air from coming into contact with existing rust (effectively sealing it in) and therefore preventing it from getting worse and spreading as quickly.

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          Posted 20 November 2011 - 04:42 PM

          You can use a rust converter to turn the rust into a salt that coats the steel 'n makes it harder for it to rust further. Wax is hydrophobic which makes the water form beads and run off rather than seep into the seams 'n start rusting. It won't be as effective if there's already water 'n rust.

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            Posted 20 November 2011 - 04:43 PM

            They claim it kills old rust too but I wouldn't tust that

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              Posted 20 November 2011 - 04:46 PM

              Ok but why does it say it kills rust on the tin? only asking because i have noticed some surface rust (orange colour) on a piece of rust on the
              floor that i noticed looking through the vents in the outer sill

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                  Posted 20 November 2011 - 04:46 PM

                  Hammerite do claim it kills existing rust.
                  http://www.hammerite....com/waxoyl.htm

                  Edited by tommy13, 20 November 2011 - 04:47 PM.

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                  Posted 20 November 2011 - 04:47 PM

                  Maybe it does contain a suitable acid, but I'd doubt it's as effective at getting into the seams as a liquid.

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                    Posted 20 November 2011 - 04:52 PM

                    My van was waxoiled about 6 years ago. how often does it need to be re-applied?

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                      Posted 20 November 2011 - 04:54 PM

                      What about products like kurust and rc2000 they clam that when applied to a rustie suface it turns it into a sound surface or are these
                      products just slowing down the process i have only surface rust

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                        Posted 20 November 2011 - 05:22 PM

                        i have used jenolite in the past very successfully. knock off all the loose cack and slap on the jenolite, it turns black after a while and thats it - ready to treat..

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                          Posted 20 November 2011 - 05:24 PM

                          dress the rust back with a flap wheel or sanding paper, kurust (or vactan see here http://cgi.ebay.co.u...em=110765433110). let it dry and change colour, add a couple coats of paint, let dry. cover with waxoil or whatever.

                          Should help keep it at bay, but any holes etc, it needs to be cut out and repaired.

                          Jordie

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                            Posted 20 November 2011 - 05:29 PM

                            dress the rust back with a flap wheel or sanding paper, kurust (or vactan see here http://cgi.ebay.co.u...em=110765433110). let it dry and change colour, add a couple coats of paint, let dry. cover with waxoil or whatever.

                            Should help keep it at bay, but any holes etc, it needs to be cut out and repaired.

                            Jordie

                            Is that the one you reccomend?

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                              Posted 20 November 2011 - 05:32 PM

                              its one ive been using my self and my others i know who restore classic cars.

                              I believe it is basically kurust but direct from the factory type thing. it works exactly the same as kurust and we have shot blasted cars painted with this and stood for months without any surface rust. we slap it on thick as we will be sanding it off when preping for paint later.

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